solid
Killing Spree
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Post by solid on Dec 15, 2011 0:04:57 GMT -8
[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dHJiYl9zNkllVGt0XzE1Tk5HVnJ3eEE6MQ#gid=0 ]Take this assessment survey[/url] and answer every question truthfully. These questions and answers generate a score (out of 1000) which translates to a letter grade. These rankings will be used to better balance our in-house games.
The ranks are from highest to lowest S, A, B, C, D.
After you finish the survey you will be given a grade. A mix of the assessment results and analysis of your in-game skill will lead to your "official" grade.
In the future we will have league matches, tournaments, etc., and your grade will be a key component in your starting ELO. This will help to balance out the in-houses along with the league/tournament matches with rough estimates of individual skill. Your grade will have the opportunity to rise, or fall, during these recorded matches.
More information about this will be given soon. This process is still in its infancy! Until then, get everyone in IHG that you are in contact with to take this survey. Your official grade will be sent to you via PM on these forums.
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Post by Kowz on Dec 15, 2011 3:02:40 GMT -8
I edited your post and sticky'd it. This is our first step toward our future league, our ranking system, and balancing our in-houses.
If everyone can participate and give suggestions etc. it would help me and SoliD a lot.
We are also looking for people with knowledge about creating scripts/programs to help assist in running a league.
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Post by nedrapter on Dec 15, 2011 4:28:00 GMT -8
Completed.
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imsyu
Double Kill
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Post by imsyu on Dec 15, 2011 10:37:17 GMT -8
guess ill retake it since i guess maybe my first attempt didnt go through
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Post by severian on Dec 15, 2011 11:00:05 GMT -8
Id suggest that people place their current rank/code into their Steam Profile Name so it makes it easier to balance teams for the In Houses we have going. I currently have my name as [IHG] Severian.Gusta.CodeB
And while making me feel Korean I also feel damn sexy.
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Post by olgathora on Dec 15, 2011 11:12:33 GMT -8
I edited your post and sticky'd it. This is our first step toward our future league, our ranking system, and balancing our in-houses. If everyone can participate and give suggestions etc. it would help me and SoliD a lot. We are also looking for people with knowledge about creating scripts/programs to help assist in running a league. What will this entail? Finals week is coming up, so I won't have an unlimited amount of time. I already set up in-board tournament brackets for our future tournaments. Example below[Tourney:[[Tourney={Team RB,Team G,Team A,Team B}+{Winner,Winner}+{Champion}]]/Tourney]
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Post by vexxes on Dec 15, 2011 12:14:39 GMT -8
This, of course, is a a nice step towards a ranking system. However, I think having people rank themselves always, and especially in this genre, has problems. It is very rare that people actually understand their skill level; they either overestimate themselves or underestimate themselves. In my experience you're going to have a lot of people answer 5's to things that they really are not even close to a 5 at.
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Post by Velore on Dec 15, 2011 13:46:46 GMT -8
Step 1: Answer every question choosing option 1 Step 2: Always play with the best players in IHs Step 3: ? ? ? Step 4: GG GUYS, THAT WAS FUN
..Actually don't do that, the biggest flaw in this kind of thing is that when someone is too shy / too overconfident to rate himself honestly, the teams might get horribly imbalanced. With the number of players in IHG it's going to take a while before our Jedi Council figures out who's in the wrong class.
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Post by massivedynamic on Dec 16, 2011 0:50:19 GMT -8
I filled it out like just when you guys finished making the poll but I wasn't given a rank, will it be posted up later?
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Sable
Killing Spree
N'aix will feast upon you.[Xb0:EuphoricEcstasy]
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Post by Sable on Dec 16, 2011 6:12:03 GMT -8
I filled it out like just when you guys finished making the poll but I wasn't given a rank, will it be posted up later? I was wondering the same thing; where will we get to see our ranks? someone said something about adding it to our steam name; but how can we do that if we don't even know which one we are?
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Post by Velore on Dec 16, 2011 7:58:02 GMT -8
Ask Solid or Kowz on vent, they're able to check it. But I'm sure they will post it as a list sooner or later when the assessment is polished and we're ready to play using it to balance teams.
Also, I realised that the test lacks a lot of personal style information that also has some effect on the skill level. For example: Inability to predict hero movement, skill canceling or other qualities that might give away flaws that stop someone from picking heroes like Kunkka, Pudge, Lina.
Instead of making the assessment even longer, I'd sugest making a related, OFFICIAL thread where everyone will post the flaws (idea from the 'weakness' thread) that would help moderators in decreasing/increasing rank basing on it.
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Post by Noah on Dec 16, 2011 8:42:50 GMT -8
Just finished my entry, and answered as truthfully as possible. Or atleast, as truthfully for my knowledge. It's hard to rank something like that in just 1-5, but it is definitely a good starting point.
This would be a lot of work, and I feel that if someone was going to make a thread like that, it would have to be very soon, so they can atleast get started.
Honestly I think that the system is a tad redundant now, when there is maybe... 20/30 people, and only 15ish people on in the evening. (Don't know how many are on at night, I'm sure much much more.) Cause it is probably just gonna end up with people playing with each other, no matter what the rank.
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Post by Kowz on Dec 16, 2011 9:47:41 GMT -8
The survey will be heavily changed in the near future. It will contain a section that asks about basic information, stuff you would need to know to do decent in our in-houses, then another section that will be briefly summed up by our "estimate skill level chart". Also know we do plan to recruit more, but we have purposefully not recruiting at this time until we get a few things taken cared of, this being one of those things.
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shupinna
RAMPAGE
Trance Around The World <3
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Post by shupinna on Dec 16, 2011 10:58:32 GMT -8
This is a really good idea to assess people in an organized way. I can't wait to take it once finals are over!
Edit: I like the ranking system a lot too. Reminds me of GSL haha except from C and lower.
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Sable
Killing Spree
N'aix will feast upon you.[Xb0:EuphoricEcstasy]
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Post by Sable on Dec 16, 2011 12:20:32 GMT -8
Ask Solid or Kowz on vent, they're able to check it. But I'm sure they will post it as a list sooner or later when the assessment is polished and we're ready to play using it to balance teams. I'll be sure to ask them later on; though I'm really curious as to when this is all actually going to be used and implimented in every day inhouses.
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Psyr
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Post by Psyr on Dec 16, 2011 16:02:51 GMT -8
Completed the form. I wasn't expecting as many questions as that and found myself second guessing myself on everything. I guess that's the problem with self-assessments It makes sense to use the existing rating system from the GSL as most people who play Dota are probably at least familiar with Starcraft or can pick up on it easily enough.
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Post by Noah on Dec 16, 2011 19:11:44 GMT -8
Completed the form. I wasn't expecting as many questions as that and found myself second guessing myself on everything. I guess that's the problem with self-assessments I know exactly what you mean. But I thought it was a pretty good test, and will prove to be accurate with maybe a few changes, or some external help to the ranking system, via the idea mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Post by sharkdragon on Dec 17, 2011 10:04:58 GMT -8
Done
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